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Post by don on Jul 2, 2007 14:18:05 GMT -5
Fellow Kindred,
I am sure by now all know of the events that came to pass on the first of July. Many of us assembled at a gathering held upon Elysium grounds. We received a handful of dignitaries including a visiting Prince and Seneschal as well as a ranking member of the Sanctified. Elysium was first breached by younger Kindred who thought it prudent to exercise their Dark Gifts upon the grounds. The 'Keeper' was lacking when it came to dealing with this problem. Later in the evening we discovered that the 'Bartender' at this place was not in the employ of our 'Keeper'. As he made his escape through the back door I pursued him and rectified the breach that he constituted, but not before I had to deal with several of his allies: Hunters. I know several of us suffered assault at the hands of these hunters that night, and last I had heard not all of our fellow Kindred were accounted for. When I finally caught up with the rest of our Society (I myself having trekked through some horrid places to ensure the deaths of those who attacked us) I decided to speak with our 'Keeper'. She became indignant when I addressed the attack upon us and the presence of a hunter in our midst. She stated that she had no control over Elysium and before our argument escalated further I requested that Dame NicQuinn intercede. Our argument continued and Dame NicQuinn graciously listened to both sides and informed us that she would take these complaints to other authorities within our Domain. I thanked Dame NicQuinn and when I began to state that I would not be attending any Elysium that our 'Keeper' was responsible for and I would advise all Kindred to do the same, I was attacked by our 'Keeper'. She foolishly attempted to stake me with a shoe, possibly with the intent of ending my existence. I grabbed her so that she could take no further action against me, and still she persisted in her attempt. Dame NicQuinn stepped in and called for us to stop. Because of the great respect I hold for our Cities Speaker I did not avenge my honor at that time.
Later our 'Keeper' asked to be removed from her position (in my eyes attempting to flee the post before her incompetence could be addressed further) and Dame NicQuinn stated that this Lesser Kindred owed myself a Major boon for the attack upon my personage.
Like many of you though I am a creature of honor and still feel that our City and my Personage was tarnished by these actions. What must our visiting Dignitaries have thought.....
In the past there were ways to deal with such assaults upon ones honor, and it is for this reason that I write this letter. I seek justice. I am willing to forgo the Major Boon that this Lesser Kindred owes me under one condition: She meets me in Monomancy, a personal duel to satisfy this loss of face. In the past it was believed that God would side with the Righteous party and ensure their victory. If this Sanctified Kindred believes as much she should have no reason to refuse my request.
I await a response, Lord Alder Balthasar Grimm
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Post by Miss LeAnne on Jul 2, 2007 20:11:34 GMT -5
I will not be intimidated by a new member of this city who has seen fit to assail several members of the Second Estate of this city. Last evening he stated that he would stand by what Dame NicQuinn decided would be a decent punishment. She made her ruling, and thus I stand by what she said. It is not a matter of my lost honor, I did what was asked of me and he agreed that the Major boon would be enough. This call for Monomancy breaks his word to me and more importantly Dame NicQuinn. If he chooses to break his word, and then I will meet him...I am not afraid, and I am not going to be itimidated by this, I can make my sacrafices and meet the consequences of my actions. The question not is: will the gentleman in question be willing to meet the consequences of his actions? and does he really think it is honorable to go back on his word, when it was given in public view of Dame NicQuinn, the Sanctified, as well as the visiting dignataries?
Those who know me, and those who were there to witness said know that I did not step down to flee the position before it could be taken away, I did so because it was the right thing to do. When I took the position, I said I would do that best I could...last night was proof that it was not enough. That my frequent trips out of town for Coventnant business and training were a distraction that should not have been allowed. I stepped down because I tarnished the position and wished to put things right again between the Invictus and the Lancea Sanctum of this city.
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Post by jessica on Jul 2, 2007 23:30:03 GMT -5
I may be young, and probally shouldn't be typing this but Alder Grimm, is quite in the wrong in the opinion a harpy that I spoke to as well. If favor was negotiated and logged with the Prince's Harpy then that is his word of agreement. Once the terms are agreed to, he can not decide to simply do what he likes and due to his error... I would advise you both to write the Dame privately. There is no need for uncalled death in this city when we are working on organizing the structure through the chaos. I believe we all can work this out without any needed violence. Let the Harpy seek to resolve the conflict
Kitty
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Post by Timothy on Jul 3, 2007 1:37:05 GMT -5
It's too late for that, Kitty. I'm afraid I'm going to be the one handling this.
Angelina and Lord Grimm. You two are to have no further contact until I give word that you can.
Invictus, await my words privately.
Honor, Respect, Dignity. If we have not these things, then we have nothing.
Czar Spectre
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Post by don on Jul 3, 2007 9:46:40 GMT -5
My Dearest Katherine,
Your interpretation of these events is somewhat flawed and as I find myself in a giving mood I will take a moment to correct you. I am not doing as I please as you seem to think, instead I offered a trade. I offered to trade the Major Boon that was logged with our Esteemed Speaker (The word harpy is both gouche and insulting, something that Dame NicQuinn should not have to suffer) for the right to this duel. My request for Monomancy could have easily been ignored or denied by the party I challenged, in which case I would have been left with the Major Boon that I was originally owed. As it was accepted then the boon that I was originally owed has been 'Cashed In' as it were. My wording may have been confusing for one as Young as yourself. If you wish to go back and read it again I am sure you will begin to see as much.
To clarify once more, Young one, I would never see fit to simply do as I wish in defiance of the Speaker and by Proxy the Prince. The Invictus must be respected. That is something I think many here have forgotten. It is admirable that your Humanity colors your outlook and you wish for death to be avoided, but My Dear some of us came all to close to death due to the events of the last gathering. If you fail to see that something must be done about that I ask that you speak to Lady Margarit. I am sure she can help you understand this a bit better.
Czar Spectre, I humbly thank you for getting involved in this and I await further word on the matter.
Lord Alder Balthasar Grimm The Unconquered
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Post by Aaron on Jul 3, 2007 14:07:28 GMT -5
Lord Grim,
While I acknowledge your age would be to call you alder, I am not invicitus and will not allow for that standing to be seen. I will use the rightful title of lord as you state. But I'm a bit off,
Czar Spectre, So you are to know, I think we need to play a game of chess again soon. I am currently at matters at hand but will be able to soon.
To the matter of Monomancy, I believe I heard a statement of this once before, and correct me if I'm wrong in quoting the now Pillar Foresychte, but, Monomancy was to be declared against invictus and outside of that it was nothing more then a duel.
As to the slandering comments that you spoke Lord Grim, I will seek the williningness of a Trival boon from you. As you insult the seneschal also upon the lineage. As to the insult of the inquisitor of the area calling her a twisted and insane child, I request a trivial boon as well. The Second Estate, the Lancea Sanctum, advises and supports the First Estate, the Invictus, as long as the first estate will not forget that we back them. If we are to be insulted then perhaps it is time for us to gather in our church away, and let this be settled otherwise.
oh, and Lady Mattox, perhaps a relaxing glass of blood, while we talk next time.
Gods Speed,
Sariel St. James Bishop of Nebraska Ksyhatria Thebian Scholar
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Post by Miss LeAnne on Jul 3, 2007 18:52:30 GMT -5
Czar Spectre,
I will abide by your wishes and have no more contact with Lord Grimm.
I do wish to have a meeting with you regarding this matter however, as I have been doing my own research and would like some thing clearified for my own understanding.
Thank you, Sister Angelina
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Post by don on Jul 4, 2007 0:47:15 GMT -5
Formerly Bloodhunted Bishop Sarial St. James,
I understand you have earned many titles of your own, but unlike you I do believe in using ALL of them. You are absolutely correct. Monomancy is normally an honor reserved for the members of the first estate, the fact that I was kind enough to extend this privilage to one of the Second Estate shows the Esteem I normally hold for members of that Covenant. You may refer to it as whatever you wish, the fact remains that a challenge was put forth and accepted. No one was forced into this, all parties were willing.
You, good sir, will be recieving no boons from me. You speak of slandering comments to your personage and I must remind you that you are the one who approached me before we were ever introduced and claimed that I made an attempt on young Katherines life. Slander good sir? That was an out and out lie, and I believe that until that evening I had never spoken to you, or for that matter of you..although to my knowledge their is MUCH that can be said.
As for the Sensechal, Mr. St. James, if she feels insulted I am sure she is more than capable of speaking for herself. Or do you presume to hold some authority over our Princes chosen advisor?
As to my insult upon Katherine, for that I will apologize. She is young and shows promise, and perhaps I let my frustration get the better of me when I made said statement. I now consider Katherine and myself even. My insult in exchange for her repeated use of profanity in my presence after being asked to refrain. It seems fair to me. If she see's it otherwise I will hear her argument and may reconsider.
You call your veiled threats of 'Gathering in your church away and letting this be solved otherwise..' guiding the first estate? It seems as if you are just looking for another excuse to repeat your past crimes. Is that the case? It is too bad that the second estate is not better represented. I remember fondly the philosophical discussion shared by myself and Lucas DeWynter. He is a fine representative of your covenant. I am sure that he would conduct himself much better than what we are currently seeing.
Lord Alder Balthasar Grimm Unconquered
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Post by Aaron on Jul 4, 2007 2:29:52 GMT -5
Intrestingly put Mr. Grim,
Since we are not to use titles at this point, we won't. I see also that you enjoy playing the political game of a bully. As you have requested the right to duel one of my Sanctified and she has choosen. then I believe her being the challenged gives her right to state the challenge while you state the terms.
As to the rest of your post. your are more long winded in your wording then a few brood that have tried to speak. Perhaps you should do well to reside in lessons. Play your political game well.
although I will point something out.. metaphors, or perhaps your age has lasped to the point that you are unable to understand them. Of all the invictus I have met, As to our first meeting, I would beleive it plays over you screaming a staking of a memember of the second estate because she kicked you.
Lastly, If you presume to claim that I guide the first estate, then I ask, are you questioning the right and guidance that the prince, Czar spectre uses and seek to call upon the one who deals with the sanctified?
Or perhaps, a typo and a mis spelling.. I can understand that a computer is a great deal of a odd thing for you to deal with. So.. untill we speak again, Grim.. I would advise you remember that I do not make threats. I am not as foolish, to do that as some kindred I know do that well.
Sariel St. James Bishop of Nebraska Ksyhatria Thebian Scholar
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Post by jessica on Jul 4, 2007 11:16:52 GMT -5
Please stop adding more gas to the fire, the Prince said he was taking care of it and we should respect his words and stop speaking on this matter until its dealt with.
Katherine
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Post by don on Jul 5, 2007 2:22:38 GMT -5
Kindred of the Tri-Cities,
It has been several days since the event that roused my ire. I have had time to consider my previous words and actions and have come to the conclusion that I was indeed wrong in challenging this Childe to Monomancy. Although I do believe many of the Second Estate are indeed noble enough to participate in such a rite, nothing in this younglings words or actions has proven deserving of such an Honor. To be frank I believe that the few seconds it will take me to end her Requiem could be better spent, but if she still wishes to face me in single combat then I will aquiesce. I will, however, not refer to such a skirmish as Monomancy.
Also to Mr. St. James: My apologies, but it appears that your beast has muddled your thinking. Take a deep breath and relax, perhaps then I will understand your next missive.
Lord Alder Balthasar Grimm Unconquered
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Post by Aaron on Jul 6, 2007 0:18:16 GMT -5
Relax? I do that well enough. Perhaps if I'm not stating it in a clear enough manner I should write in a different language. One that you know all to well.
you are old, your are holding onto your ideals and I must say for one who loves to do that, you are a master of it.
And if you think my beast has muddle it, then I gave you to much credit for intelligence, I shall dumb the wording down so that you understand it completely. As Sister Katherine seemed to, perhaps I should talk to her about translating it for you. She is smart enough to know what I say. Pity you aren't.
As a request, I won't comment on other parts of your missive as I would infringe upon the princes call to let him handle it.
So, Mr. Grimm, have I dumbed it down enough to your level?
Sariel St. James Bishop of Nebraska Ksyhatria Thebian Sorcerer
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Post by don on Jul 6, 2007 10:44:15 GMT -5
Mr. St. James,
I truly am interested in what you were getting at in the previous post I commented upon. I am truly sorry that I only understood a handful of lines from it. I think, Mr. St. James, that we may have gotten off on the wrong foot. Actually to be brutally honest I do not believe you gave us a chance to get off on anything BUT the wrong foot, but I digress. If you would care to meet with me then I am sure we can resolve some of the dispute between ourselves. I offer a hand of peace. Take it or refuse it, but remember that the offer was made.
Also, the Czar is indeed handling the matter. I would never presume to second guess the Czar. He is a man much wiser than both you or I. Read my wording again, good sir. I refuse to refer to any skirmish your childe and I participate in as Monomancy. I do not challenge the Czar's right to oversee the matter. I merely announce a change in my outlook. So do not worry Mr. St. James you may still get to see your childe destroyed, as it is apparent that you wish to see this skirmish through to its end.
Lord Alder Balthasar Grimm Unconquered
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Post by jessica on Jul 8, 2007 17:32:41 GMT -5
My Dearest Alder Grim,
If one believes such then I will accept proper training from you and the Czar for I have much eagerness to learn, and the willingness to make up for any ill transgressions, perceived.
With Respect,
Katherine
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